Are "wild" American cartoons expressionist art? Examples given...

Alicia Glick

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Alright, follow me on this one, because some may find me crazy or away in another galaxy on this one...

To look throughout time, especially in painting, poetry, music, film-making, and even fashion, especially within the last century or so, you've seen expressionist art/surrealism/whatever other terms you may want to use.

By this, I'm talking wild lyrics in songs written by Bob Dylan, or The Beatles in the 60s, lyrics like...

(From Bob Dylan's 1965 masterpiece, "Can You Please Crawl Out Your Window?")

"...He looks so truthful, is this how he feels
Trying to peel the moon and expose it
With his businesslike anger and his bloodhounds that kneel
If he needs a third eye he just grows it
He just needs you to talk or to hand him his chalk
Or pick it up after he throws it..."

Or from The Beatles, Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds:

"..Follow her down to a bridge by a fountain,
Where rocking horse people eat marshmallow pies.
Everyone smiles as you drift past the flowers,
That grow so incredibly high.

Newspaper taxis appear on the shore,
Waiting to take you away.
Climb in the back with your head in the clouds,
And you're gone..."

And so on and so forth with many musical groups.

In visual art, you have dadaism:

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Or, work like Picasso's wild masterpieces:

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Poetry, stuff by the Beatniks in the 50s...here's some lines from Allen Ginsberg's poem "Howl":

"I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by
madness, starving hysterical naked,
dragging themselves through the negro streets at dawn
looking for an angry fix,
angelheaded hipsters burning for the ancient heavenly
connection to the starry dynamo in the machin-
ery of night,"

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And, anyway, you get the idea..."expressionist art," surreal stuff, and whatever else you want to call it.

My question is...do you think that American cartoons from the 90s, 2000s, and on - especially the more "wild" ones - could be considered expressionist art, in ways? Obviously they are literal art because they are cartoons...and I'm sure there are foreign and "underground" or "indy" cartoons that people consider to be "deep," and "expressionistic," but I'm talking about the Ren & Stimpies, the Rocko's Modern Lifes, the Courage the Cowardly Dogs, the Ed, Edd, N Eddys, etc...the ones made on this side of the ocean, that always been considered "mainstream," and have never really been analyzed so deeply before, usually being thrown off by most Americans as simple childrens' entertainment...could they be considered "expressionist" because of their surreal, bizarre nature?
 
I don't know about modern cartoons, but i would definatly say that the Fleisher cartoons of the 30's and a good number of Loony Tunes cartoons (primarly those by Tex Avery) could very well be considered surrealist works.
 
To make thread even more eclectic, i say that always considered Peter Gabriel's music videos of the eighties ("Sledgehamer", "Big time" even reaching to "Steam") as this.

I believe it couldn't get any wilder yet mainstream at that time.
 
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