A question about Catholic history?

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I have been told that the early Catholic church doubted the inspiration of the apocryphal books.

It wasn't until the 1200's that they actually said they were inspired.

Is this true or false.
Can you supply a link to show what you believe to be true?
 
The word Apocrypha is Greek, and means hidden
it came to be used for books where the author was doubted or unknown
eventually it came to mean non canonical.
in protestant circles it refers to the extra books that are found in the Catholic Old Testament.
some are worthwhile reading
the question is their place in relation to Authoritative Scriptures
what grounds are they accepted or rejected.

These books were never included in the Hebrew canon of the Old Testament
As far as the evidence goes they were not accepted by Jesus or the Disciples

they were not accepted by first century Jewish writers, (Josephus or Philo)
or by the Jewish council of Jamnia (AD.90)
or Origen or Jerome

the books do not show evidence of divine inspiration
they have always been under suspicion
 
Very, Very false. All Christians have trusted what you call the Apocrypha up until the 1600's When Martin Luther removed them. He removed from the Bible, which the Bible strongly warns against.
 
APOCRYPHA

(A?poc?ry?pha).

The Greek word a?po?kry?phos is used in its original sense in three Bible texts as referring to things “carefully concealed.” (Mr 4:22; Lu 8:17; Col 2:3) As applied to writings, it originally referred to those not read publicly, hence “concealed” from others. Later, however, the word took on the meaning of spurious or uncanonical, and today is used most commonly to refer to the additional writings declared part of the Bible canon by the Roman Catholic Church at the Council of Trent (1546). Catholic writers refer to these books as deuterocanonical, meaning “of the second (or later) canon,” as distinguished from protocanonical.

These additional writings are Tobit, Judith, Wisdom (of Solomon), Ecclesiasticus (not Ecclesiastes), Baruch, 1 and 2 Maccabees, supplements to Esther, and three additions to Daniel: The Song of the Three Holy Children, Susanna and the Elders, and The Destruction of Bel and the Dragon. The exact time of their being written is uncertain, but the evidence points to a time no earlier than the second or third century*B.C.E.

Evidence Against Canonicity. While in some cases they have certain historical value, any claim for canonicity on the part of these writings is without any solid foundation. The evidence points to a closing of the Hebrew canon following the writing of the books of Ezra, Nehemiah, and Malachi in the fifth century*B.C.E. The Apocryphal writings were never included in the Jewish canon of inspired Scriptures and do not form part of it today.

The first-century Jewish historian Josephus shows the recognition given only to those few books (of the Hebrew canon) viewed as sacred, stating: “We do not possess myriads of inconsistent books, conflicting with each other. Our books, those which are justly accredited, are but two and twenty [the equivalent of the 39 books of the Hebrew Scriptures according to modern division], and contain the record of all time.” He thereafter clearly shows an awareness of the existence of Apocryphal books and their exclusion from the Hebrew canon by adding: “From Artaxerxes to our own time the complete history has been written, but has not been deemed worthy of equal credit with the earlier records, because of the failure of the exact succession of the prophets.”—Against Apion, I, 38,*41 (8).

Inclusion in “Septuagint.” Arguments in favor of the canonicity of the writings generally revolve around the fact that these Apocryphal writings are to be found in many early copies of the Greek Septuagint translation of the Hebrew Scriptures, which translation was begun in Egypt about 280*B.C.E. However, since no original copies of the Septuagint are extant, it cannot be stated categorically that the Apocryphal books were originally included in that work. Many, perhaps most, of the Apocryphal writings were admittedly written after the commencement of the translation work of the Septuagint and so were obviously not on the original list of books selected for translation by the translating body. At best, then, they could rate only as accretions to that work.

Additionally, while the Greek-speaking Jews of Alexandria eventually inserted such Apocryphal writings into the Greek Septuagint and apparently viewed them as part of an enlarged canon of sacred writings, the statement by Josephus quoted earlier shows that they were never brought into the Jerusalem or Palestinian canon and were, at the most, viewed as only secondary writings and not of divine origin. Thus, the Jewish Council of Jamnia (about 90*C.E.) specifically excluded all such writings from the Hebrew canon.

The need for giving due consideration to the Jewish stand in this matter is clearly stated by the apostle Paul at Romans 3:1,*2.

Additional ancient testimony. One of the chief external evidences against the canonicity of the Apocrypha is the fact that none of the Christian Bible writers quoted from these books. While this of itself is not conclusive, inasmuch as their writings are also lacking in quotations from a few books recognized as canonical, such as Esther, Ecclesiastes, and The Song of Solomon, yet the fact that not one of the writings of the Apocrypha is quoted even once is certainly significant.

Not without weight also is the fact that leading Bible scholars and “church fathers” of the first centuries of the Common Era, on the whole, gave the Apocrypha an inferior position. Origen, of the early third century*C.E., as a result of careful investigation made such a distinction between these writings and those of the true canon. Athanasius, Cyril of Jerusalem, Gregory of Nazianzus, and Amphilocius, all of the fourth century*C.E., prepared catalogs listing the sacred writings in accord with the Hebrew canon and either ignored these additional writings or placed them in a secondary class.

Jerome, who is described as “the best Hebrew scholar” of the early church and who completed the Latin Vulgate in 405*C.E., took a definite stand against such
 
if they are apocryphal they are not divinely inspired if they were divinely inspired it is the bible.

its the protestants that butchered the divinely inspired texts.
 
To explain this to you I will have to define a couple of theological terms.

Apocryphal refers to books that the Church banned in the fifth century that were mostly of Gnostic origin. These were determined by the Church not to be inspired but in fact, heretical. This was done by Pope St. Gelasius. You can google his name for further information.

The books in the Catholic Bible that were thrown out by the Protestants a couple of hundred years ago are properly defied as the Deutero-Canonical books. Of these book there was never any controversy as to their inspiration since they were part of the Greek Septuagint quoted by Jesus in the apostles as recorded in the NT.
For more information google Deutero-Canonicals. The Catholic Encyclopedia online is a very good source for explanation.

God bless!

In Christ
Fr. Joseph
 
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