200 Days Binary Newsgroup Retention at Giganews!

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Athlon64 said:
They'll have no choice eventually. Seeing as how GN is one of the biggest usenet providers it gonna happen sooner or later.


They should think about lowing the price at least $5 to bing in new people. Their prices have been the same for far to long.
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It would be cool if they dropped their prices. However, most companies don't "drop" their prices for a service after its been stable for a period of time.

If anything it will go up.


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200 Days Binary Newsgroup Retention at Giganews!

Giganews has completed its third significant storage upgrade of the year which will increase binary retention day by day through the end of the summer to 200 days! Giganews continues to hold text newsgroup articles indefinitely and as a result Giganews' retention in text newsgroups is well over 1400 days.

This latest upgrade comes just two months after Giganews announced 120 day retention in binary groups and only four months after Giganews announced 100 day retention in binary newsgroups.

"This recent push to 200 days retention fits into our normal cycle of perpetual upgrades. Traditionally we haven't increased retention by as large a margin as we are during this current upgrade; however, we have decided to accelerate our upgrade cycle so that we can continue to lead Usenet and provide more value for our customers. By nearly doubling our storage capacity Giganews is investing in our service so our customers can continue to enjoy the best Usenet experience possible." said David Vogelpohl, Giganews' Vice President of Marketing and Sales.

This retention upgrade follows closely after a series of additional security offerings, utility releases, and other value additions to the Giganews service.
Encrypted Usenet Access

In late 2006, Giganews deployed 256-Bit SSL Encrypted Usenet Access over port 563, which was quickly expanded to offer support over port 443. 256-Bit SSL encryption allows Giganews customers to browse and download headers and articles in a private, secure, and anonymous environment with similar performance they would expect from an unsecured connection. Encrypted Usenet access is included with all Diamond accounts and can be added as an upgrade to all other accounts.
Retention

Thanks to Giganews' recent upgrade, binary article retention will grow from 120 days to 200 days over the coming weeks. Customers will not need to make any configuration changes to enjoy increased retention.
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Source: http://www.giganews.com/news/article/usenet-retention-200days.html
 
What newsreader is that if you didn't mind me asking?



fletcher25 said:
hmm, sp0ngeb0b, I get more accurate and reliable speeds from usenetserver (5+ Mbps) than giganews. and it's cheaper. just my thought.
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That might be true. I was testing usenetserver from a 100mbps server in .eu with ~110ms latency. That might be part of it. When I go back to school here in a few weeks, I'll probably try them again since I'll have 100mbps here in the states.
 
No kidding. I'd become a subscriber if they focused on lowering their prices. With moves like this, it won't happen anytime soon.
 
BigH said:
but what's the point of 200 days retention if the search engines don't keep up

Newzbin is still at 100 days, and when I asked them, they responded that they had no plans to increase
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There's the 'rub', you're exactly correct, and (one) of the reasons Newzbin (continued problems with their 'v3' is another) has become less and less of a good resource; I find myself using sites like here more, simply because, even with a way smaller user base and folks posting 'finds', I find that listings are actually MORE accurate and catch a lot that Newzbin misses completely, even though I have to trudge through the (for me) semi-useless listings of vhs-quality XVID and other recoded types (it would be nice if there were separate sections for each type of 'system', including the HD and standard dvdr, but...).

The indexing sites will eventually catch up, I remember when the listings only went back 30 days, so....
 
Holy f*ck. I was just about to drop them and go with usenetserver and their 100 day retention. I'm actually in the midst of their 3 day trial. Not as fast as giganews (only 2-3MB/s). I think this is going to keep me with giganews now, :D :w00t:

I agree with you Beck38, my account at newzbin recently ran out and I haven't done anything yet. I've just been sticking with here and binsearch.
 
sp0ngeb0b said:
What newsreader is that if you didn't mind me asking?





That might be true. I was testing usenetserver from a 100mbps server in .eu with ~110ms latency. That might be part of it. When I go back to school here in a few weeks, I'll probably try them again since I'll have 100mbps here in the states.
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ahh, I sure miss those school Ethernet accounts. :01: esp internet2 networks
 
The only problem there is binsearch has 120 day retention. Hell, newzleech only has 100 day retention. And filesharingtalk has like 40 day retention too. I suppose if you want old stuff you have to go back to headers.
 
sp0ngeb0b said:
What newsreader is that if you didn't mind me asking?
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I've used News Rover for well over 10+ years; it has quirks, the updates have been pretty slow the last couple years (really, not that much to 'fix', there's just a couple things I'd like changed). I take a look at others occasionally, but just a couple hours with any of them leaves me deleting the things. I would say on average about 300-600GB/month transfered, if my Giganews stats are true. The machine it's on is almost as old, a P3/700Mhz/512M but with 320GB of HD. Smallest/Slowest machine I have. But does the job, leaving the 'important' work to 'others'! :D
 
My NSP has recently reduced its block pricing and increased retention to 100 days. So I see this as a good thing from Giganews as its rivals will have to move to combat this. Giganews is the best but being an ex member I feel they are far too pricey. I for one am prepared to take a drop in retention for a price cut. I am such a skin flint.:unsure:
 
erRor67 said:
The only problem there is binsearch has 120 day retention. Hell, newzleech only has 100 day retention. And filesharingtalk has like 40 day retention too. I suppose if you want old stuff you have to go back to headers.
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If you select the "show all" option when using binsearch, you'll get results greater than 120 days. I've seen 150+ for some searches.
 
erRor67 said:
And filesharingtalk has like 40 day retention too. I suppose if you want old stuff you have to go back to headers.
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I haven't once used the nzb's here, I always use either a search site or the built-in search function in my newsreader (uses indexing on Giganews) to generate the nzb's. What this listings here 'should' do is list the 'rar' pattern (like 'mymovie.partxxx.rar' as that's all one really needs to actually go out and generate it; I'm leary of most any 'posted' nzb's as I've tripped across too many that have had major 'holes' in them (parts listed but not actually posted).

Then the space required would be very minimal; most dvd5 nzb's are over a MB in size, dvd9's are of course double that. The listing with graphic maybe takes up, what, 10k? Maybe that's something the site operators should think about, keep the uploaded nzb around for a couple of weeks, then drop it to just the 'hint'. Then the listings could be really huge; but would need better 'organization', like I commented earlier. Maybe an idea that can be 'kicked around'.
 
Still have a long way to go to reach the 200 mark. Currently averages 124 days of retention per binary group.

But it will get there. Giganews ALWAYS delivers.

I never experienced any outage with Giganews.
Always getting top speed from them.
The Giganews Accelerator for downloading headers, after a shaky start, is now working perfectly for me.

Yes, it's a bit pricey. But they're the best.
 
It all depends on what your tolerance is for missing parts, old posts, etc., and how much your time is worth. I did the 'due diligence' on several other major providers before I went with them (for a month or two) and came to the conclusion that the $10/month cost difference for the dozen or so discs I missed getting because of poor completion no matter how much time I spent searching on every server, it wasn't worth it.

Now, if one d/l's much less, then yes. I have to admit that I don't do as much as I did a couple years ago, but I've given up on the 'scene' releases and other recoded (sometimes with a large hammer) and the like pretty much.
 
Up until 2 years ago, I had one of the 'lower price spreads' for a handful of years, after keeping with ISP servers for many years before that (on dial-up, way before movie postings). But I got tired of chasing fills (but there were lots more servers selling bulk d/l's rather than 'just unlimited' which is the line today) and went with GN and never looked back.

I've always benchmarked PC costs with the cost of storage, and I still remember my first 'large' drive, 120MB scsi, in 1989, at around $1300 (with interface card). For that $1300 today, not even figuring inflation, would get one a 4TB array or thereabouts, with 750MB SATA Seagates, including enclosure.
 
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