harkencorn
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Digital has nothing to do with accurace..It has to do with countries laws stating that actual speed has to be x% less than indicated.
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1098 Dyno Run Results ! ! !
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Rick Samuelson
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state laws???
never heard this one before.
never heard this one before.
TV Casualty
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163.3 was a 5th gear run. When the bike came out, one of the magazines radar gunned the 1098 at 173ish if I remember corrrectly. I have seen an indicated 177 on mine at the track.
johnny
johnny
MTsBabydoll
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Not states laws so much but as I understand it some countries in Europe.
BigJakeB5364
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Speed is taken off the rear rotor/disc. You can see the magnets on it. Most GPS readings I have seem have it around 168mph max speed. Honestly max speed don't mean anything to me as long as you can hold speed thru the corners and have your braking points spot on then what does a few mph do?
Annika Montaigne
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Here are the EU regulations on speedometer accuracy as a PDF. In the US as of 2003 the maximum error is +5% for cars, but as with the UN regs, adopted by the EU, for bikes it may be more. These are federal guidelines, not state or provincial.
A nutshell:
European Union member states must grant type approval to vehicles. The ones covering speedometers are similar to the UNECE regulation in that they specify that:
* The indicated speed must never be less than the actual speed.
* The indicated speed must not be more than 110 percent of the true speed plus 4 km/h at specified test speeds. For example, at 80 km/h, the indicated speed must be no more than 92 km/h.
The standards specify both the limits on accuracy and many of the details of how it should be measured during the approvals process, for example that the test measurements should be made (for most vehicles) at 40, 80 and 120 km/h, and at a particular ambient temperature. There are slight differences between the different standards, for example in the minimum accuracy of the equipment measuring the true speed of the vehicle.
The UNECE regulation relaxes the requirements for vehicles mass produced following type approval. The upper limit on indicated speed is increased to 110 percent plus 6 km/h for cars, buses, trucks and similar vehicles, and 110 percent plus 8 km/h for two or three wheeled vehicles which have a maximum speed above 50 km/h (or a cylinder capacity, if powered by a heat engine, of more than 50 cc). European Union Directive 2000/7/EC, which relates to two and three wheeled vehicles, provides similar slightly relaxed limits in production.
Hope this helps.
BTW, I doubt 170 on an 848. Give me the GPS logs and I'll buy it.
A nutshell:
European Union member states must grant type approval to vehicles. The ones covering speedometers are similar to the UNECE regulation in that they specify that:
* The indicated speed must never be less than the actual speed.
* The indicated speed must not be more than 110 percent of the true speed plus 4 km/h at specified test speeds. For example, at 80 km/h, the indicated speed must be no more than 92 km/h.
The standards specify both the limits on accuracy and many of the details of how it should be measured during the approvals process, for example that the test measurements should be made (for most vehicles) at 40, 80 and 120 km/h, and at a particular ambient temperature. There are slight differences between the different standards, for example in the minimum accuracy of the equipment measuring the true speed of the vehicle.
The UNECE regulation relaxes the requirements for vehicles mass produced following type approval. The upper limit on indicated speed is increased to 110 percent plus 6 km/h for cars, buses, trucks and similar vehicles, and 110 percent plus 8 km/h for two or three wheeled vehicles which have a maximum speed above 50 km/h (or a cylinder capacity, if powered by a heat engine, of more than 50 cc). European Union Directive 2000/7/EC, which relates to two and three wheeled vehicles, provides similar slightly relaxed limits in production.
Hope this helps.
BTW, I doubt 170 on an 848. Give me the GPS logs and I'll buy it.
Secret N Keyblade Master
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Obviously not
These bikes take the speed off the rear wheel. You can put whatever gears on you want and nothing will be changed.
These bikes take the speed off the rear wheel. You can put whatever gears on you want and nothing will be changed.
Beyond Bleach
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Juan,
The numbers do look low, but it simply could just be the type of dyno used. Any way to post a pic of the graph? On it should be vital information like SAE, Smoothing 5, Correction factor, temp, humidity. Lots of info can tell whether it's just a conservative dyno.
The numbers do look low, but it simply could just be the type of dyno used. Any way to post a pic of the graph? On it should be vital information like SAE, Smoothing 5, Correction factor, temp, humidity. Lots of info can tell whether it's just a conservative dyno.
Lola Goose
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Had my 1198 on the dyno yesterday and with Termi slip-ons numbers were 156hp and 98 ft/lbs. But as was said earlier there are lies, damn lies and dyno numbers.