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For exactly the same reason. Plenty of folks *in* Israel are heavily critical of Israeli society (that is, in fact, one of the attractive points of that country). Those who are already critical, are going to be predisposed to viewing this matter in that light. It is IMHO a big mistake to view...

There isn't enough details in the various news accounts to know. Given that the fellow pled guilty, there would not be much of a court transcript to go on - if you plead guilty, the fact of your guilt tends to be assumed. There is no reason to assume that the account of a guy who plead guilty...

Naw. I don't think getting high in and of itself will make someone otherwise not inclined to steal into a thief. At least, I've never (anecdotally) observed this as a side effect of such intoxication. OTOH - showing up high to an event inappropriately may be a sign that the guy's an ass, and...

That's exactly the issue: the case is "fishy" if you assume that the court etc. are all acting on racist motives, and "not fishy" if you don't make that assumption. In short, it acts somewhat as a Rorschach inkblot test - one sees in it what one is predisposed to see in it. Once the actual...

The quote is simply and provably incorrect, since the leading Israeli case involved a situation where a fellow was claiming he worked for some housing Ministry and had favours to dispense in return for quickies. No "protracted deceit" and most certainly no "promise of marriage".

Are you contending that rape by fraud isn't a crime in America? Because I can assure you, it is in some states. See the (lengthy) article on this very topic I posted upthread.

There is a lengthy article (sorry, PDF) on this topic entitled "RAPE BY FRAUD AND RAPE BY COERCION", 64 Brook. L. Rev. 39. Apparently, it is a reasonably major topic. www.justdetention.org/pdf/Rape%20by%20Fraud.pdf That isn't even true in the Israeli case, let alone generally. The leading...

I hate to inject some actual content into this train-wreck ... :D But in answer to your question: it would appear to be a recent change in the law, set by the 2008 High Court decision. Prior to that there was no such animal as "rape by deception". In short, based on the exact same facts, in...

The same law is on the books in many other places, including some US states. What the judge said is that people who lie to get sex are "smooth tounged criminals". How exactly is that some sort of proof of racism in society? Even if this particular woman is as racist as a barrel of KKK...

Point is that to prove this offence you'd have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that (a) the person lied about their identity; (b) that this lie was believed; and (c) that 'but for' the lie, sex would not have taken place. The person isn't getting nicked for being Jewish (or Arab), but for...

I'm not saying you did; I was using your post as a spring-board to comment on the course of the argument in this thread generally. As to the "violent rape" thing - he said/she said situations are difficult enough to parse; in this case, we simply have no idea what she said to the cops.

In order to properly address these questions, we would have to know a whole lot of facts not in evidence - at least, not in evidence to us. Again, this objection is similar to others made above. This thread seems to have the following overall trajectory: 1. OMG this is so racist. It's...

I don't see how it provides such a "tool", any more than any other law. Less in fact. As it is, the racist person would have to have sex with the person they are racist against in order to use that "tool", which if they were really racist, would be an odd sort of way to go about being racist. :D

What I'm 'boggling' about is how you are taking one incident - highly criticized within Israel at that - and, generalizing the hell out of it, claiming it proves Israel is an apathied society. Fact is, I don't think the 'rape by deception' law make sense, but assuming it does then arguably a...

Looks like some US states have such laws: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/02/29/politics/uwire/main3894875.shtml Though the article is short on details.

To the first, the answer is apparently "yes", since the leading case involved a guy lying about being in the gov't. Dunno about the second. The 'lying about yourself = rape by deception' thing has, apparently, been around a few years, and this is the first case where the lie involves 'not being...

Again, that's the result of selection. It isn't that smoking any amount of pot makes the average person a better driver - it is that smoking a small amount makes the average person compensate (or even over-compensate), and smoking a larger amount makes the average person decide not to drive...

The problem is that Israel has an (IMO stupid) law that lying about one's identity to get sex vitiates consent.

Stoned people produce far less accidents, on average, than drunk people. That is not because the impairment of being stoned isn't significant - smoke enough pot, and it certainly is significant: it is perfectly possible for the average person to get so stoned that simple mobility shows...

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