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Debate is neither good or evil it is debate, that and nothing more. Intelligent people can do it with civility and respect and the less intelligent have more trouble doing that. Also the over zealous cannot debate intelligently very often.

That was one of the tenets of the Knight's Templar, i think I read somewhere, and there is a lot of truth to it. I do not know if it originated with The order, I have never heard that. We are usually too busy trying to dominate the world at our meetings (sarcasm for Pat). The biggest secret...