..when he hadn't yet died or been resurrected since he was still alive?
why do i need to believe in all the cross stuff then?
so jesus said "hey look! it's god!" and paul said "hey look! it's jesus!" ? did something get lost in there?
he got bored with sinless people in an eternal paradise or what? - he just wanted to screw with us? - and who's to say he won't get bored with the new heaven that jesus made possible by mopping up god's sadistic little expeiment and plant a tree there too?
that god gave us free will is not an...