Sobriety check points and the 4th amendment

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This probably isn't true.


I can think of one case in particular where something similar happened, but the guy did, in fact, have his engine running.
 
Just to feel it out, what part of the checkpoints is unreasonable.

Stopping everyone and the quick look to see if you are obviously drunk, little talking, etc...
Checking Licenses, running plates, etc...
or the breath analyzer and stupid human tricks ?
 
They are being seized and searched. And reasonable suspicion is certainly not irrelevant to a traffic stop. You see, it's what's required in order to perform one.

Unless you're trying to catch drunks, in which case, fuck the constitution.
 
Driving drunk is already illegal. Reading communist literature isn't. We're not talking about creating a law, we're talking about enforcing one.
 
So are laws against speeding or running stop signs or swerving into the oncoming lane or laws against driving the wrong way on a one way road. Are you against those laws as well?
 
Being allowed to engage in a privilege like navigating a motor vehicle on taxpayer roads does not mean that you leave your Constitutional rights at your driveway.

If you really think that your statement is adequate defense of unlawful searches like sobriety checkpoints, can you explain which other Constitutional Rights I'm also allowing to be suspended while driving? Maybe I can be beaten by police for having rosary beads hanging from my rearview by police that disagree with my Ron Paul 2008 bumper sticker? No freedom of religious expression or political free speech. No freedom from cruel and unusual punishment. No trial by jury of peers.
 
Arresting DD's has become completely money motivated, I think sobriety checkpoints are here to stay. Since when has modern government given two fucks about the constitution?, they piss and shit all over it all the time.
 
I only heard the last one on a forum. Didn't check the link. I do know that you will get a ticket in many (Most?) states/provinces if you fall asleep in the vehicle with the keys in your pocket or near you.

http://www.azduiatty.com/how-to-drive-under-the-influence-while-sleeping.htm

He cites every situation with a court decision.

Arizona has now expanded the rulings to potential use.

In Florida you can as well. F.S.S.316.193(1)

State v. Lawrence, 849 S.W.2d 761 Tennessee, the guy was asleep with keys in pocket. Charged.
 
Wait, WHAT? The Bill of Rights states what the Government cannot infringe upon, ie, YOUR RIGHTS, dumbass.
 
Dude if you only look at it in a closed minded way like that then your argument seems valid to yourself. You think it's a law that punishes you for something you haven't yet done. Feel free to continue to look at it only in that light instead of it's true reason; to protect others. There are tons of laws out there that punish you without you actually having done "an action that caused harm". It basically boils down to you being punished for endangering others. You can get arrested for aiming a laser pointer at an airplane even if the plane doesn't crash. You still did something that endangers others. Your argument is that that person is being arrested BUT THEY DIDN'T ACTUALLY HARM ANYONE BROSKI.

I don't expect you to agree with me because you don't seem like the person to cave and admit they're wrong.
 
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