You steal a camera during MY Workshop? Fuck you, you piece of messed-up shit !

[Baal Houtham]

Me also too. Was there video footage showing the theft, or is the OP just assuming that the person who "found" it was the thief?

That assumption would represent the most probable scenario, but not any sort of certainty.

 

[Malthus]

I call BS on this one.

Being high compromises your mental function. This dude was high. It certainly doesnt seem to be much a stretch to me that a high person might be more likely than a sober/not high person to use the five finger discount if an easy opportunity arose.

Hell, isnt that almost the definition of being drunk/high? Doing minor stupid shit you'd almost never do sober?

Naw. I don't think getting high in and of itself will make someone otherwise not inclined to steal into a thief. At least, I've never (anecdotally) observed this as a side effect of such intoxication.

OTOH - showing up high to an event inappropriately may be a sign that the guy's an ass, and asses may, arguably, be more inclined to such stuff.

 

[mhendo]

I haven't smoked pot in years, but if someone wants to claim that marijuana impares cognition and motor skills, that's the person who needs to bring the cite, not me.

In conclusion, the regular marijuana users in our study
showed cognitive impairment in the maze task and in the
WCST on 17mg THC, with evidence also of increased risk-taking
in the gambling task and effect on heartrate measures.
In addition, the results show attentional impairment albeit less
severe, in subects using 13mg THC, thus suggesting a dose

 

[Cat Whisperer]

The heat thread was started a couple of days ago; if I remember correctly, Cartooniverse is in New York, and is likely to be travelling today.

 

[Dag Otto]

Hush up, you lush. While smoking pot may or may not cause impairment, Dio is making an excellent case to support the OP's position that pot smokers certainly can be douchebags.

 

[billfish678]

Do you actually have proof that he stole the camera, or is that just an assumption you made because he smokes pot?

It sounds like you're profiling pot smokers.

A criminals a criminal.

 

[Vinyl Turnip]

I AM the evidence.

You've been excluded. Case dismissed.

 

[Vinyl Turnip]

I'm not a drooling moron.

Cotton mouth, eh?

 

[JThunder]

I didn't say that at all. I never thought it caused any impairment at all except perhaps for inexperienced users.

That's not what you said, though. You specifically said that marijuana "doesn't affect cognitive abilities." Then you also claimed that marijuana does NOT impair cognitive and motor skills. Neither one of those comments said anything about one's level of experience.

Ironically, the cite you provided DISPROVES your claim. The cite fully acknowledges that marijuana smokers are impaired; it simply alleges (questionably so, IMO) that drivers who are stoned will tend to compensate for that fact. Ergo, you own cite refutes the very claim that you have been stubbornly defending.

 

[Guinastasia]

You know what? When I've had a few, I am extra careful too because I realize I am impaired. But I aint fucking stupid enough to claim I am actually safer slightly buzzed. Maybe safer than the average retarded pothead, texters, cell phone users, and general morons. But safer than I would be if I was sober?

Jesus Fucking Christ.

So you admit that you've driven while you were drunk, but people who smoke pot (even if they don't drive while high) are somehow stupid? Mmmmkay.





(And just to head it off, no, I'm not a pothead, I've never even smoked pot in my life. So that dog won't hunt.

There is NO evidence that driving stoned causes car accidents.

You've already been proven wrong on THAT one, dumbass.

 

[billfish678]

No, marijuana does not lower inhibitions the way alcohol does, or make people more likely to steal. That's complete horseshit.

Cite?

 

[Freudian Slit]

I always thought that marijuana had *less* of an impact on inexperienced smokers. Like people who smoke for the first time often report little to no effect, whereas experienced smokers can get high more easily. I also remember learning something to that effect in abnormal psych.

 

[fuji]

Doing minor stupid shit you'd almost never do sober?

For most of us, stealing an expensive item from a store isn't "minor stupid shit". Most of us recognize the moral and legal downside (possible felony depending on value of item).

 

[Diogenes the Cynic]

Those conclusions are not just based on accident rates but on actual field studies of people performing tasks while under the influence of THC.

 

[Diogenes the Cynic]

Excuse me, but read the fucking cites, They ALL say that whatever impairment is caused by pot does NOT result in any higher incidents of accidents. Does NOT.

 

[MeanOldLady]

Ironically, the cite you provided DISPROVES your claim. The cite fully acknowledges that marijuana smokers are impaired; it simply alleges (questionably so, IMO) that drivers who are stoned will tend to compensate for that fact. Ergo, you own cite refutes the very claim that you have been stubbornly defending.

Right. I actually deleted a paragraph about similar studies regarding drinking, and did so because I didn't want it to degenerate into a pointless Cite Fest, enamoured with debating and nitpicking the life out of each citation, such that the point is lost entirely. But since we're here, the same is true of drinking. I've read studies that claim mild alcohol intoxication improves driving ability, and for the same reason. When a driver has been drinking, but is still functional, he will often compensate for potential errors due to the realization that he has been impaired, and drive better than Suzy Normal, or my absolute nemesis, Suzy Text Message.

Anecdote: When we were kiddos, once my brother was drunker than Jesus, and tried to improve his posture and mannerisms so that Pa would not catch on. It was late at night (/in the morning) so Pa knew he was drunk, and his absurdly upright posture just confirmed the suspicions. "Of course he was drunk," Pa said. "He was walking straight as a soldier." Excellent!

The hardest core of drunk drivers have gotten this down to a science. They don't drive too perfectly because they realize it arouses suspicion. So they drive 10 mph above the speed limit like everyone else, except they use turn signals.

 

[magellan01]

Look, I can't help it if you buy the cheap stuff that doesn't really get you stoned.

But was it weak pot, or weak school?

 

[billfish678]

[
So you admit that you've driven while you were drunk, but people who smoke pot (even if they don't drive while high) are somehow stupid? Mmmmkay.

.[/QUOTE]

Did I SAY I DROVE when drunk? I said I realized I was impaired when buzzed. Hence, I don't do dangerous things when so, like driving or operating chainsaws. You how people get drunk and decide dangerous shit is a good idea? I get buzzed and realize that anything more than walking or sitting around is probably a bad idea exactly because of my impairment.

 

[ivan astikov]

Can I use your car?

Friends don't let friends drive stupid.

Not even for scientific reasons?

 

[PlainJain]

Anecodtes are not evidence.The actual empirical data shows that driving stoned does not increase tthe risk for accidents. There's no way out of that box. That's a checkmate for me.

That was a joke.

Bull-mother fucking-shit! It's back-peddling pure and simple. You've been arguing that this entire thread. I bet it's also a preemptive strike against the inevitable...

I AM the evidence.

Anecodtes are not evidence.

... contradiction. If you want to post looney speculations that you believe, fine. But now you are just lying in an attempt to salvage your position.